You Don't Win An Award - #06

Fan Service: You Don't Win An Award - #06

Join Gray Haddock, Kerry Shawcross, Miles Luna, Yssa Badiola, Cole Gallian, Andrea Caprotti, and special guest Shannon McCormick as they discuss Avatar: The Last Airbender, Thunderbolt Fantasy, Yuri on Ice, and more on this week's Fan Service.

This episode originally aired November 25, 2016.

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  • IronChefKevin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Occasionally cool

    2 months ago

    Not that it really matters, anime is more of a style than a category. Avatar is done in the style of anime, almost every animated piece of content to come out of Japan is done in the style of anime (for obvious reasons), but they all fall under the umbrella of cartoon as well.


    I personally can't see why anyone would feel so strongly that some can't refer to something as anime if they don't see it that way, but if that distinction is important to you maybe try to rationally explain that instead of going out of your way to attack someone and there opinions. 


    Also, and I only know this because of Desk of Death Battle, but all anime is born of western cartoons regardless so it all seems like something of a mute point to me. 

  • mr-kab-uki FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's not anime" said every butt hurt weeaboo who has an internet connection.

  • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

    3 months ago

    I'm surprised they didn't bring up Aeon Flux to the Anime vs Cartoon discussion.

  • Icenrose FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    4 months ago

    Amid the many good points made during this episode, I think something Gray said resonates with me the most: demon magic is the only way to explain Thunderbolt Fantasy.

  • fionana FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    4 months ago

    As a fan of Japanese dramas, I got into them because of live-action adaptions. I've learned to keep my mind open until I see the finished product.  I tend to be more defensive for the movies that haven't come out yet, because I remember watching the AoT live action trailer and thinking it was gonna be good, and then it wasn't. Reverse that with the Rurouni Kenshin movie, where I started off against it because I didn't like the actors they chose and then it ended up being one of (if not the) best adaption I've seen so far. So I wouldn't give up hope just yet.

    Some other adaptions coming out are: Tokyo Ghoul, ReLIFE, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, March Comes In Like a Lion, Hyouka, Peach Girl...those are just the ones off the top of my head. 2017 is a big year for live action adaptions, so you better hold on tight.

  • HidingFromTheSpotlight FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    4 months ago

    In the vein of there being a Little House on the Prairie anime, I would like to point out that there is also an Agatha Christie's Poirot/Ms Marple anime adaption.

  • drew1drew1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Mask of Chaos

    4 months ago

    Thank you all so much for introducing me to Cannon Busters! I saw the short trailer on LeSean Thomas's youtube channel and I love it! I have already watched it 4 times. I am really hoping in continues on and grows!

  • ReviewOrDie

    5 months ago

    The speciation between anime and cartoons is, for me, done for exactly the same reason Miles said - communicating effectively. The difference is it's why I get annoyed when people call Avatar or RWBY an anime instead of finding that label a useful tool.


    The way I define anime in general is this: an animated production where the creative base (writer, director, etc.) is primarily located in Japan. I don't care where you out-source the animation to or if you've got American co-producers (Hey Big O, hey Stand Alone Complex, hey Space Dandy and IGPX), if it's a production based out of Japan I'll call it an anime.


    That's it. Because while I am an anime fan, and I am an Avatar fan, I'd never go so far as call Avatar even anime-like in its storytelling. I never felt it was like anime, just that it was drawn like one. None of the storytelling elements felt anime-esque to me at any point, with the exception of the straight up beach episode. Still, even then that's like saying Star Trek Voyager is jidaigeki because it had an episode using the Rashomon wraparound.


    I hesitate to discuss the entirety of Japan's culture and storytelling in a single comment. But its separate and parallel evolution (despite having a similar genesis with Disney) and close intertwining with manga makes it a distinct entity that should be treated like one for the purposes of discussion. Not only that, if you know something's an anime you can apply a cultural filter that wouldn't otherwise be present to appreciate where the work is speaking from.


    A longer discussion about storytelling elements like how people plot their shows, the length of a season, the existence of seasons, comedy, the construction of endings could easily be had - and I hope they will be by you guys in pieces going forward - but I'd definitely rather watch you do it than conduct it myself at 3AM on a comment section.

  • pixieprinces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    I really loved the topic of this episode because I don't watch most of what people classify as anime. I am a huge fan of RWBY and Miraculous Ladybug and Steven Universe and Voltron and so when people ask if I watch anime I usually say no because I don't want to get into the whole "that's not anime" gatekepper bullshit.

  • Raptorbiscut FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    As a very blanket definition, I would say it's animation with a specific style reminiscent of Japanese animation with an overarching story that continues through each episode. While there are exceptions, that is what I would call anime

  • donkeykon3 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    why is this kerry's last time being on fan service?

  • MetronicMagician FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    The way I describe anime is like this. Anime is like pornogrpahy, you can't truely define it but you know it when you see it

  • Northdragon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    Can't believe I didn't think about it before but I would love to see Lawrence as a guest spot.

  • Nootly FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    I'm surprised they didn't bring this one up, but Teen Titans was my FAVORITE show as a kid, and it was very anime inspired in style! It's an American super hero show in nature, but from a visual stand point, it feels like an anime. They make several direct references to animation sequences in FLCL (another fave) and I think it was very intentional that they made the show that way. I wanna get deeper into the production of that show so bad.

  • COW12X FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    Miles Burnie cosplay was a little lacking this episode.

  • JayLeCornu FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    i seriously wanna know where miles got his shirt i love it


    • RavartheRaven

      5 months ago

      Teefury, its pretty legit place I got the same shirt

    • JayLeCornu FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 months ago

      thank you Ravar :D

  • AlwaysOnline

    5 months ago

    Yssa continues to represent me lol 

  • im-a-baritone FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    does anyone know where you can get miles's cowboy bebop shirt?

  • Zazie122 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    Anime is, when used by English-speaking fans, Japanese animation. Things like ATLA and RWBY maybe anime-style or anime-inspired, sure, but they're... not anime simply because they're not Japanese. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and it doesn't make them less good or anything, but trying to say they're the exact same thing isn't something I agree with. Especially since anime is more than just the art style and whatnot.


    I mean, cartoons (western cartoons at least, since that's what I'm familiar with) are great and I grew up on them. But they're not the same as anime. The target audiences are different, the cultural references etc are different and for the most part the character tropes are different. Even with things like RWBY that are close to anime, they still don't have Japanese morals and values that are present in any anime, even ones that don't take place in Japan -- or even the real world. 

    • TheWolfy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Look Ma! No Hands!

      5 months ago

      A little part of me Wants to Shoot someone in the head when they say RWBY is a Japanese Kawaii Anime.

    • ariannelb

      5 months ago

      It's really interesting that you say RWBY isn't anime because in Japan, RWBY is advertised and labelled as an anime, in the same way that every other anime currently airing is. I see RWBY on the same shelf at music/video stores next to SnK, SAO etc. 


      Western cartoons also have a lot of similarities to anime, looking past the technical side. South Park is a great example because the target audience is clearly for people much more mature and it has a large amount of its own cultural references and social commentary, maybe the only difference is how satirical it is compared to even the most comedic of Japanese anime. And even South Park is categorised as anime in Japan. 


      I think the main reason why a lot of western cartoons don't have Japanese morals and values is because...Japanese people aren't watching these. A great example is the localization of Super Dimension Fortress Macross to Robotech, or Space Battleship Yamato to Star Blazers, and the US distribution companies had to change so much from the original anime in order for western kids to understand the plot. But there are people in the West who call Robotech and Star Blazers as cartoons...not anime, which is really weird. 


      I think the whole discourse on anime is something that has emerged within English-speaking fans... and Japanese people are completely oblivious to the entire thing lol 

    • Orac FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Holding on to "Sponsor"

      5 months ago

      The problem with this line of reasoning is that, like many forms of storytelling, anime has dealt with a variety of tones and pieces of subject matter, so finding the tropes which unite them as "anime" under your definition might literally be impossible.

      Which I think is why people are so willing to put all the things with this visual style into the "anime" box.  In the same way that we put all the fiction printed on dead trees and bound into books into the "novel" category.  Whatever the content, the tone, the culture surrounding them, they share the basic principles of storytelling - be they words on the page or frames on the screen.

      The Devil Is a Part-Timer!, Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and The Three Musketeers Anime are all anime, despite the very limited number of things which unite them thematically.  In the same way, House of Leaves, The Fellowship of the Ring, and A Confederacy of Dunces are all novels despite the thematic divide.  Sure, being made in Japan vs being made in the west means there's a different lens between the two, but pinpointing exactly where that manifests might be an exercise in futility.

    • SciKosis

      5 months ago

      I mean, to kinda bounce off of what Arianne is saying here, we do have to remember that anime is just an abbreviation for animation, so to a more literal sense, it's just "cartoons." Now, granted, as Zazie said, the more colloquial/social definition of anime is "japanese animation" that does somewhat cause a bit of a divide in what should or should not be considered anime, because there have been some shows, manga, and even games that have been released that weren't from Japanese studios, some that come to mind are Torkaizer, GunBusters, and Mystic Messenger. None of these are anime if we base it off of the Japanese Animation description, the closest being Mystic Messenger from a Korean studio, but if nobody told you any different and you went in blind, you'd likely think it was a Japanese production, same with GunBusters. So I think it's a good point to make being that we've somewhat surpassed the advent of anime in pop culture to where it was such a niche thing to create/consume, as well as the broad gamut of styles within even those that have come out of Japan, that what used to be a blanket term of "Japanese Animation" is now too focused of a point. I think in this day and age, it is somewhat safer to suggest that it is a stylistic aesthetic that makes something "anime." IDK just my two cents.

    • SciKosis

      5 months ago

      I just realized I called it the wrong fucking name probably twice in that post, it's fucking CannonBusters, I just finished marathoning GunBuster/DieBuster a couple weeks ago MY BAD

  • ZeusBaxter FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold THAT Guy

    5 months ago

    Frankly im glad they we in the western world are having this discussion. Being a 34 year old male ive watched anime slowly make its way into western society and am very pleased at its presence no matter what form it takes.

  • Spt17 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    For those who dare the french made galaktic football


  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    I lost it at "A trashcan full of WACOMs." I can totally see Miyazaki doing that.


    That conversation about Miyazaki was really inspiring. I can't bank on my success as an animator while still in college, but I actually feel way more confident about not saving for retirement yet. Hopefully I never have to.

  • cvnt-crusader FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    Poor Andrea they always ignored the bell D:

  • tanky_death FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    Anyone ever watch a 4kidz dub of One Piece, it's so bad that it's kind of funny

    • BraddonDent FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 months ago

      I loved it when I was a kid

    • Kyair217 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 months ago

      It's actually what started me on the path to full blown anime fan

  • JessicaE FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Mixed_Coffee

    5 months ago

    cool fact for ya'll, just found out that the guy who voices Yuuri in the dub (Josh Grelle) also plays Tyrian in RWBY!

  • Shmittles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    I find it very interesting how many of the commentators so far have classified their view of anime solely on the style, quality, complexity, and/or architecture of an animated show. And maybe that's what it will become some day. But I'm curious, what about the trash anime? I'm not gonna call out any particular titles, but I'm sure we're all aware that there have been some pretty crappy animated shows that came out in Japan (and probably rarely/never got localized outside of it). They aren't all quality shows, they aren't all complex, they're not all for adults, and/or they don't all follow a particular structure. So, for animated shows that come out in Japan like these, would anyone one here actually start saying that they're not "really" anime?

  • Kahiyao FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Creative

    5 months ago

    "I have huge holes" -Shannon McCormick, 2016

    • Shannon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Voice of Agent Washingto

      5 months ago

      Yep!

  • RelaxCourtney88 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 months ago

    MILES IS BAE

  • Jianju FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold ヽ(⌐■_■)ノ♪♬

    5 months ago

    アニメ just means animation in Japanese.  To some people though, anime has a narrow meaning of: animation from Japan.  So either some people just need to broaden their definition of anime, or there needs to be a new term given to animation that is more complex than cartoons.  Since anime is a colloquialism in the western world, it would be nice if the Webster Police Department would talk things out with the animation studios of the world and agree upon English words and categorizations of the emerging varieties and types of animation.  


    In the end, people will use what words they want to use.  To me RWBY is anime.  It sure as hell ain't Scooby Doo.

  • Bighippie FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Some Guy In AZ

    6 months ago

    They were talking about anime purists deciding whether something is anime or not, and I agree, who cares. But what about people who refuse to admit something is anime? Like people who refuse to watch a show simply because they heard it is anime.  

  • ariannelb

    6 months ago

    The whole "what is/what isn't anime" discourse has always amazed and bored me. My Japanese friends have never understood the debate either. If you go to a video rental store in Japan, under the "anime" section, all anime is there: Japanese, American, French, all kinds available, because it is all anime-- animation, simply an art medium that portrays a story and its characters through bringing life into drawings/non-animated things. 


    But to what I think "real" anime is...(god, I really hate having to think about this, because, seriously, who cares) All I know is that after a year of lectures and classes from my Animation Culture professor, perhaps what sets "anime" in terms of Japanese animation apart is just the grassroots history and traditional production of whatever show. Japanese anime was initially and primarily used to sell something: then, robots for boys and magical toys for girls. That whole purpose to advertise one product is still seen in anime broadcasted in Japan today-- merchandising is ridiculous and the corporate anime industry has perfectly monopolised the fanbase in Japan, creating the biggest cash cow ever. Secondly, I distinguish anime, regardless if was outsourced to Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines or Vietnam or anywhere else, is the process of how the anime was created. Does it use limited animation? Strategic camera angles and framing? Stock "footage" to maximise on time and save on budget? those are the techniques I can think of off the top of my head without having to dig through my hard drive to find my essays on anime. Of course, there are exceptions, like Knights of Sidonia where it is completely 3D animated to look 2D. I guess this is only usually my outlook on what "real anime" is, which has become a more academic-based perspective as a result from studying it for the last 2 years. (seriously, if you enjoy watching anime, don't be a schmuck like me and move to Japan to study it at a university, it isn't fun. I haven't watched anime in since moving here because it has become a textbook to me instead of a form of entertainment....so I really enjoy this podcast as a way to discuss anime, and hopefully find my love for it and start watching it again)


    But anyway, yes, yes, yes, yes, I completely agree that if the story is able to captivate you and move you emotionally then who cares if it is anime or not, that's all that matters. At the end of the day, it is all anime, like I said before, telling a story through drawings.


    Miles, Kerry, Gray, you're coming to Tokyo? I'd love to know more details and have the chance to meet you all! :) :) 


    p.s. sorry if my argument is all convoluted and messy. It's like 4am here and I don't know why I'm asleep. 

  • germzmonster FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    I really like the show, but I'm not a fan of the bit where you pick clips to make someone from the show pick. It's hard for me to really have any investment in those parts because I don't know the person.

    • Forral FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Forral87

      5 months ago

      I disagree, I love the anime shot of the week stuff! Just the reactions alone keep me coming back

    • ZeusBaxter FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold THAT Guy

      5 months ago

      I think thats kinda the point. Since the stars of the show are all such huge anime fans and since people watch anime they relate to on some level. Its a window into the personalities of these people we dont see much of.

  • shadows1192 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    Confused.do they not wanna show nips and stuff because they don't want to or because it's a show? We've seen a chick straight masturbate on Theater Mode.  And both are first exclusive shows so I don't think there is need for censoring here.  

  • Buzza FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    Guys, you NEED to talk about Flip Flappers.

  • canhasaname FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Michelle

    6 months ago

    For most I think so long as it comes from Japan it's an anime. I do believe that there is a certain art style, storytelling method and specific character arcs that will make me associate an animation as "traditional anime". I agree with Cole that there are so many things that are "anime adjacent" that the label of anime is becoming quite generalized. I personally think that so long as you feel something emotionally and the story makes you want to keep watching... who cares what it's labeled. Enjoy it and connect with those who enjoy it as well.


    As for Yuri on Ice, I'm so invested in the development of Yurio and his story and the parallels between him and Yuri. The character development has been incredible for 8 episodes and it's been handling subjects like gender fluidity and proper LGBTQA+ representation. But I think the best thing to take away from what's been going on is the development of a healthy relationship. Episode 7 was brilliant in showing proper communication and support of your partner and how it can elevate and help develop and strong and healthy relationship.


    P.S. I need Stan to be the Side Cock one of these days. I'm just throwing that out there.

    • Austin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      I just need more Stan in my life period.

  • LoafyChaos FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    I think a lot of the reason some people are so strict with their definition of anime is that, outside of Japan, people who watch anime often consider themselves to be a part of one giant fandom: the "anime community." It's kind of a parallel to otaku culture in Japan. I think the ultimate motivation driving their selective definition of anime is the fear that, if the definition is broadened, the sense of community they have will be lost. For example, if you know someone calls themselves an anime fan right now, you can make some assumptions about what they've seen and what they like; just that can be enough to start a conversation and form a bond with others. But if that definition were broadened enough, someone who says they like anime could just mean that they like watching cartoons, so people in the "anime community" wouldn't be able to connect with each other as easily. But that's just my two cents.

    • chaosarmageddon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      6 months ago

      So one could say people adopt an elitist mentality towards anime when they talk about what 's "real" anime or not.

  • Dracognia94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    "I have huge holes..."

    GODDAMN I LOVE THIS SHOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jamari FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Jam jar

    6 months ago

    Just left Tokyo...

  • Ryokugan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold 俺はのんびりやるために生まれてきた。

    6 months ago

    死ね (shine) isn't bad for "fuck off", though something like 消えろ(kiero) or 失せろ (usero) would probably be more like it. You're not super likely to see either in real life, but you know. (They're all imperatives; "die", "disappear", and "vanish" respectively.)


    Also, on the subject of live action anime/manga adaptations, they're making a live action Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Sardust Crusaders specifically). I have no hope of it not being awful.


    Coming back to add more when they got to whether or not stuff is anime: in Japan, if it's animated, it's anime. When a Japanese person says anime, they could be talking about anything from DBZ to South Park. I've heard both RWBY and Avatar refered to as Western Japanese-style anime by Japanese people. People are so absurdly pedantic about whether or not x-thing is anime; it's really annoying, honestly.

  • Asterikos FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    To me, anime is a certain style of storytelling, along with certain artistic styles. For story, it tends to be multi layered, where its a joke sometimes, and serious others, and can cover a lot of different topics, for all ages. For style, its more than just big eyes and time saving mouths, its how expressions are used, how emotions are shown, like the use of opaque glasses and shadowed eyes. So, for example, Avatar: TLA is anime, Young Justice is anime adjacent.

    On Yuri on Ice: I have seen some people fighting YoI being given the lable of BL or Yaoi, because many traditional works in those categories have had unhealthy relationships, etc, and while I understand why they are fighting it because YoI has such good relationships, I have to disagree and say YoI should wear those lables with pride and really pave the way for more quality stories and relationships.

    YoI has been a really amazing ride so far and I can't wait to see more.

  • sacaku FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    Is there some way to view the screen card drawings in their full glory? 'Cause it really seems a shame for all that work and effort to not be able to be fully appreciated in a larger size!

  • UberDueler FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    When it comes to Anime. I can put all shows into different categories.


    -- Anime (Traditional)

    -- (Insert Country Here) Anime or "Diet Anime"

    -- Cartoons 

  • AliWondrland FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Rollin' Nerdy

    6 months ago

    my definition of anime: a visually beautiful animated story with emotional connections to the characters and the plot of the series/movie. If it makes you feel something in your heart then its anime. Thats what Japan brought to the west an animated genre that had depth and emotion it wasnt oh so funny oh so cute... we as humans developed a crush on an anime character or we cried when a character died... it is a style we attach to and we root for the characters and we ship couples... its is a life created by hand and delivered by voice... that is something beautiful  

  • NeilLarsen FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold That one little bastard

    6 months ago

    It's really difficult to define what anime really is, becasue you cant say that its the way you tell story becasue youll have Fullmetal Alchemist, and then Keijo!!!!!!!!, that are completely different styles of stories. And you can say that its the animation style becasue you'll have anime like JOJOs Bizarre Adventure, and then Hetalia that have very different art styles but are still animes.


    It's just a broad genre really

  • AlecsanderM FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold If Senpai won't notice y

    6 months ago

    If it has a mature-ish tone I usually describe it as an Anime just to emphasis that it does give something to the 17+ fandom. One of the reasons I got into RWBY was because of the depth of the story and character relationships. I'd also go so far as to consider Steven Universe or Young Justice an Anime, purely for the mature undertones. It feels like the West associates Anime with cartoons, while similar we're just slowly realizing how influential animation can be to storytelling. 

  • Heartbreak-Pudding FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

     heart_eyes sparkling_heart ok_handi love cole with all my heart

  • Shenna FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold @sena_bun

    6 months ago

    If it looks and feels like anime, I'll call it anime. I would consider Avatar an anime. I would consider RWBY an anime. There's also a ton of Chinese anime (a lot of it is on MAL) I honestly don't mind. Nobody is getting hurt from calling something an anime. 


    I'm super excited about Yuri On Ice. If we get a happy BL ending without a shounen ai tag, that would be pretty cool. 

    • AlecsanderM FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold If Senpai won't notice y

      6 months ago

      Preach It! 

  • sofa420 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    If anyone hasn't watched it, and has watched South Park at least a couple times. I have to recommend '6 Days to Air', It's one of my go-to documentaries. I watch it every month or two. That and 'Showrunners: The Art of Running a TV Show'. I've watched them so many times.


    edit: Yes please! I want your MyAnimeList! I was not a big anime fan before watching this podcast, and have started so many because it it. KonoSuba was hilarious and Erased, Gate, and Deathnote are awesome so far.


    edit2: Just started watching Chobits! Pretty good, but fucked up. Watching it because my friend read the manga about 15 years ago and figured I'd check it out.

  • CassieP FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    6 months ago

    I will say, I had some debates on anime vs. cartoons and for me, anime was something that resembled the story or art style of japanese animation. 
    For example, the debate I got into was asking why something like 'Fairy Odd Parents' wasn't anime when it was an animated show. In my opinion, it had a rather episodic nature that was geared towards being childish and humorous, the art style was simple and did not hold realistic body proportions that japanese animation produces, so as a result it is not anime to me.

    I'm not too strict on it, but the art style and story telling is what defines it as anime to me or not. I can agree that it's more case by case rather than a general consensus though.

  • TheRTV FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Round Peg in Square Hole

    6 months ago

    The LeSean Thomas interview was awesome. I love all the production and business talk.

    Edit: I just watched the trailer for his show Cannon Busters and it looks good. I really dug the music. Is he shopping the show over at RT for potential public release? Doubtful I'm sure, but it would be pretty cool