Expert Catfishing - #35

Always Open: Expert Catfishing - #35

Join Barbara Dunkelman, Max Kruemcke, Mariel Salcedo and special guest Griffon Ramsey as they discuss a confessional, their "types" and a fan submitted question about an absentee boyfriend and being vulnerable. This episode is sponsored by MeUndies (http://bit.ly/2oqytsJhttp://bit.ly/2oqytsJ)

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  • AllPurposNrd FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    4 weeks ago

    41:27 — "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

    Mark Twain

  • AllPurposNrd FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    4 weeks ago

    Griffon has the look of a sorceress who hit max level and stopped aging a century ago.

  • Kxpuc FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Max grew the stache to be a stunt double for Gavin for Lazer Team 2

  • bigdong420 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    "nothing is hotter than banter" the most true thing

  • Teakay FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    My experience has been the reverse for height. I'm a 6ft tall girl, and I've had crushes on multiple boys shorter than me, but they end up feeling intimidated or emasculated because I'm the tall one.

  • DaebakJack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Griffon repping Chaturbate damn yeahhhh i mean what is camgirls urk

  • weiss-baby FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Ice Princess

    1 month ago

    i missed mariel !!! sob

  • Cduffstep FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Colm

    1 month ago

    Griffon is literally just every single roosterteeth fan's cool aunt

  • buttercreamy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    so nice to hear griffon talking about being pan!!! bi & pan people are so underrepresented and hearing her mention it makes me all smiley and teary <3

  • Sukaro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    PRAISE THE GEOFFE!!

  • Starclipse FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    max might be one of my favorite always open guests

  • SRPhoto FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    We need Max in more videos - he's too funny!

  • marky10b FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Otaku

    1 month ago

    So I just came from watching Cleaning Frenzy RT Life and wished for Max to be on Always Open, as i am catching up to it, and wooohhoooo!! 

  • ErinLewis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Fucking love Griffon "We all deserve to be happy on this planet before we die, and we need to be conscious of how much time we have"

  • HarshNon-HumorousGerman FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Keep moving forward

    1 month ago

    Feel Honored then Barb :D 

  • RemyLeBro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    As if we all haven't said it enough, Griffon is a total fucking badass. Good shit.

  • cr0ut0n FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Idk if the person who talked about their long distance relationship wants any more advice, but I really empathize with you. I have struggled with similar issues and I thought I might share what I learned. 


    The feelings that send you into a depressive episode are NOT stupid. Your brain is telling you they are, though, which makes talking hard. But wouldn't you listen to your loved ones vent about their feelings, no matter how trivial they seemed? Your significant other loves you, so they'll be glad to listen. You're definitely not weak for sharing your feelings. It actually takes a ton of strength to bare your soul. But you are strong enough. <3


  • Lorhechapol FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I wish Griffon would just have a one person podcast where she just talks about her views and opinions. I love her outlook on so many things. 

  • Emma_Knightly FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    This episode is gloriously gay and I love it. 

  • Endelerius FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Mariel's feet were seriously sunburnt, those have got to hurt.

    • Mariel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      THEY DID. Luckily, all healed up now! 

  • 12sulljo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Why are you scared that he would repeal gay marriage? 

    • sewagylou FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Why is this being downvoted 

    • HereComeGiants FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      whew that's a relief. a real man of his word that trump. salt of the earth. totally doesn't just say whatever the fuck he wants to appease people and then not follow any of that shit when it matters. cool dude. 10/10.

    • Spoky FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      It shouldn't be.


      edit: or at least explain why the downvote like that guy

    • Target01 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Usually, the point comes from others in his inner circle and media who back him (Steve Bannon and  Alex Jones) but the biggest point is Mike Pence.  Mike Pence on the floor of Congress called homosexuality choice, backs widely debunked 'Conversion Therapy,' and backed 'religious freedom' legislation as Governor of Indiana that allowed for discrimination based on sexuality.


      This is not to say that Trump actually can or will roll back gay rights, but it's the counterpoints to his speech.  Trying to present these as neutral as I can.  

  • FPChris FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    How do they differentiate being attracted to tall or blonde guys from not being attracted to people of a certain skin colour? All of them are fine, people who think people who aren't attracted to black people are some kind of racist are just stupid.

    • saltybird FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      So you're calling Barb a racist?

  • topherbash FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    It dose annoy the hell out of me when people consider sexual preference as racism it's totally illogical it's like saying that if youre  only into certain genders youre sexist such a stupid way of thinking 

    • JumpingJellyShellyBean FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      When they're talking about tinder or grindr, where most people are looking for purely physical, sex-based relationships, it seems to make the most sense to find somebody who fits your preferred type, however shallow it may seem to others. It seems especially illogical to play the racism card in a situation like that. 


      However, wording it "no blacks" is a bit sketchy and can easily be interpreted as racist. You could word it like Barbara did, when she said she typically likes dark haired, light skinned guys. Focusing on what you like, rather than specifying what you don't. As nobody called her out for saying she likes light skinned guys, which is pretty much an equivalent statement, I don't think they were judging the preference so much as the way that the preference was expressed. 

  • topherbash FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    anyone else getting ready for disappointment when max dosnt get naked haha :) great show as always guys .

  • BABBS FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I don't believe that this was necessarily the intention, but there were some pretty strong implications made in this episode essentially suggesting that having a sexual preference for or against a given physical trait amounts to a kind of soft bigotry.  Taken to it's logical conclusion, this viewpoint makes every gay man a misogynist, every lesbian a misandrist, and leaves pan-sexuality the only morally defensible sexual orientation--when in reality I think it is obvious that consent is the only factor in a sexual context that can be rightly judged to be moral or immoral, the rest is aesthetic and interpersonal.


    I fully realize that I may have read something into the discussion that was personal to my particular feelings about and relationship to the topic that was not intended.  I am simply providing my experience watching the show; some of the discussion felt judgmental to me.  This was disappointing to me, because I have always felt that Always Open was always, well, open and accepting of differing views and lifestyles, providing room for differing views and disagreement while maintaining respect for those you disagree with as fellow human beings.


    I still love the show and will continue to watch, I'm just trying to give some honest feedback.

    • DecoyDamsel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I think its a false equivalency to say that being attracted to a particular gender is the same as only being attracted to a certain body type or race. Preferences are not a sexual orientation. If someone says they only like white masculine men then there are some societal influences there that should be examined. I think those were the only kinds of preferences that they were really criticizing, the ones that exclude a group of people that they consider "undesirable" for reasons that are definitely based in their own prejudices whether they realize it or not. 


      Someone's personal aesthetic does not simply appear out of thin air, its shaped by our environment and what our society tells us is beautiful or attractive. 

    • JumpingJellyShellyBean FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      If the preferred aesthetic of attraction is entirely based on what society calls beautiful, why are there people who aren't attracted to skinny men/women, why are there people who are attracted to overweight/obese people, when society considers thinness beautiful and fat is considered ugly? Why are some people attracted to men with more "feminine" features when masculinity is the defining trait of societal male attractiveness? A similar question can be asked regarding women who don't have the "ideal" feminine features. 


      If it's shaped by our environment, why do I know multiple white people who grew up in middle of nowhere, rural, almost exclusively white towns with families who were varying levels of racist and yet who are very attracted to black or hispanic people? Why do I know people who grew up in those environments that are part of an interracial marriage? 


      Yes, it's a false equivalency to compare physical preference and gender preference, but there's some aspects of physical attraction that are biologically based, and there are some aspects that have no explanation. Some attractions do simply appear out of thin air. 

  • Theoleander FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    A lot of submissions have been from people in long-distance relationships.Been there, done that, wouldn't suggest it.  Yuck.

  • cjamesmma FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Kruemcke is a fucking savage and for some reason it took me 11 minutes into this podcast to figure it out.

  • KayseeP FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Wasn't until somewhat recently that i realized i don't really have a type. I thought i did until i actually sat down and thought about it and it dawned on me that i would be excluding so many potentially amazing people from my life if thats how i went about finding someone.

  • CannedChaos FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Griffon and I have the exact same parameters for being attracted to people, down to my conviction that if the first thing you say about someone is that they're nice it means that that person is boring and/or stupid (both huge turn offs). 

  • MamaKatie FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    This feels silly, but I think fictional characters were what helped me realize my type. Like, seeing OTPs that have banter made me realize that's what I want in my own life. So, I don't think I have a type -- looks-wise, but I definitely do in terms of personality. Though all in all, I'm like Max where I think me discovering my "type" was just realizing that I was, in fact, a lesbian and not the total straight person I thought I was. 


    Man, this episode had me in tears from laughter. Thanks everyone for constantly bringing the laughs, even amongst some real talk. I'm excited for the post show as always! 

  • DubzyWubzy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Justin Jay

    1 month ago

    damn chaturbate is so mainstream now. 

  • Gargleblast FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    This was a wonderful panel. Thank you guys! =)

  • BigDaddyDeadpoo1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold BigDaddyDeadpoo1

    1 month ago

    Concencous of Tinder from someone who was only there for two weeks: A bunch of stupid college kids with overtly high expectations for either who they are going to fuck/who they want to have a "serious" relationship with. 


    I was messaged by some gay men (I'm not into men, btw) who's profiles said they only wanted white men, some men who'd messaged me (who "weren't" into men) who's profiles said they don't like black girls, I'd message women who weren't white and got a reply of "I don't like white guys", there was one white girl who's profile said "only message me if you rep that gang gang", there were women who stated that the degree you were getting was a big factor, and it goes on and on.

  • btornado FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Pickled Zombie

    1 month ago

    I am shocked Barbara didn't know about Chaturbate.

  • hiitskelz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold hiitskelz

    1 month ago

    Saw Max was on and was already like, yup it's gonna be so great. 


  • sewagylou FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I am having a hard time focusing whenever Max or Mariel is talking because every other word they say is "like" which just makes you sound not very smart

  • M19A85T FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Pansexual isn’t the same as bisexual. “Pan comes for the Greek word all,” 

    “Pansexual is not bi-sexual, it’s all sexual.” That means a pansexual person could be attracted to a man, woman, a Transgender person, or a non-gendered person 

    (a person who chooses not to identify themselves by gender)

    How is Pansexual different from Bisexual, If Pansexual was a real thing they would be saying that there is 4 Genders - Male, Female, Transgender, Non-Gendered but there's not 4 Genders there are just 2 Male and Female.

    • Icky427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Icky

      1 month ago

      i feel like they'd be offended even if you said there were 4 genders. hell you could say there are 10 and they'd find 12 genders and call you bigoted for excluding two of them. 

    • azzadtrack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I think what was trying to be said is that whereas bisexuals are attracted to specifically men and women, pansexuals are attracted to the contents of the box, and not necessarily the box itself. 

    • M19A85T FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      azzadtrack - True, I can see where Griffon was coming from about her own experience. I just don't think science would agree with what Pansexual meaning. 

    • RemyLeBro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      It's funny. The only ones mentioning gender are in the comments. Griffon said she was pansexual and offered examples. Kinda jumped the gun with your arguments there didn't you? You must just looking for something to be mad about.

    • M19A85T FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      RemyLeBro - Err NO, I was just saying what the word Pansexual actually means and telling you that Science would Not agree with the meaning. That is there is only Two Genders Male and Female Not Four Genders like the word  Pansexual suggests! What's really funny is that you did't listen to what I said then jumped the gun your self.

  • albinolass FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    The cast this time was awesome!

  • ShmileyPunx FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Drunk Punkard

    1 month ago

    The curse of being a short guy... 

    • Icky427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Icky

      1 month ago

      hey, at least when someone IS attracted to you, you know they dont have that shallowness of only liking tall guys.

    • bonboy6696 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      5'1 male here. Just got stood up for a date. Only options are to give up or keep playing a game with losing odds. It isn't fun, but it could be worse.

  • kaikaips3 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Being pansexual myself, I'm kind of with Griffon, I don't feel like I really have a type.

  • cheezeblade FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Barbaras last name means Darkman???? OMG shes like literalla barbara gordon with batman ahha


  • Arkatox FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Chaturbate is like Twitch but for porn instead of gaming.


    How do I know this? Yeah, you caught me. I have a Twitch account.

  • janas FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    There was a guy in handicrafts in my middle school who went to the back room a lot where the tools are to masturbate and then the teacher went in there and yelled at him, everyone knew what he was doing.

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    1 month ago



  • shoyle493 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    23:20 so, apparently, this would be barb's ideal man

    http://imgur.com/gFWhrP1

  • 300000000000 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    haha i like going on chaturbate 

  • masterMB FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Master Megabyte

    1 month ago

    Was that Miles walking in at the beginning?

  • moriuh FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold bees???

    1 month ago

    I had a friend who during finals one year, she noticed the guy next to her doing something with his hand under the desk and she thought he was waving/trying to get her attention so she glanced over and he was masturbating lmfaooo. I also had a teacher who told the story of he thought a kid was texting in class, so he went over to him to embarrass him. Kid wasn't texting. He had his dick out. I literally don't understand guys who do this lmfao. 

  • Wadcroft FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Shameless Fiction Writer

    1 month ago

    Undies in ever changing colours...


    "Hey!"

    "What?"

    "Look at this!"

    "Pull that up you perv, what's wrong with you?"

    "No no just watch!"

    "I am not going to sit here and look at your underw... Whoa!"

    "I know, right?"

    "How often does it do that?"

    "Dunno, every thirty seconds or so."

    "Oh gods, it just turned green!"

    "Yeah! It turns colours there aren't even names for!"

    "I gotta get me some of these!"

  • jused FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    So if you are only attracted to people of the same gender then that's ok, but if you are only attracted to tall people or short people you are an asshole?

    • Icky427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Icky

      1 month ago

      lol apparently. i dont get it. i thought people as OPEN as this cast would understand people just being attracted to whatever they are attracted to. if its sexual attraction, then there are some physical traits that "do it for you" more than others. if its emotional/personal attraction then there are some personality traits that "do it for you" more than others. 

    • aubreysux FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Void

      1 month ago

      identity =/= preference - nowhere in the episode did anyone say they were ONLY attracted to short/tall people, it's like an added bonus, or a preference. and height usually isn't the controversy within the dating scene, it's usually the racist/offensive "no fats, no femmes, no blacks, ect ect." people can help what they prefer (tattoos, height, and so on), but sexual orientation is a whole different thing. 

      (this isn't supposed to be malicious or condescending, i'm just hoping to educate people  bruce)

    • jused FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      How can you help what you are attracted to?  If I find tattoos unattractive, how can I change that?  Also, wouldn't femme be considered a personality trait?  If someone is not attracted to that personality, why does that make them an asshole (as was stated in the episode)?  The point is be attracted to what ever race, height, color, orientation, personality you want.  Just because you find certain things attractive or unattractive doesn't make you an asshole.